| All of you who have read my articles on | | | | and Paul knew this. Let's not forget he was once |
| "Theology and Theologians or Bible Intellectualism | | | | one of them himself a Pharisee so he knew |
| and Bible Intellectuals" will know my views and be | | | | exactly how their minds worked. That's why he |
| aware of the compelling evidence I have gathered | | | | stated this in Romans 8:6-7 "For to be carnally |
| that proves them to be next to useless when it | | | | minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life |
| comes to matters Holy Spiritual and Biblical. If you | | | | and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity |
| have not read them I thoroughly recommend | | | | against God: for it is not subject to the law of |
| them to you now for, without the knowledge | | | | God, neither indeed can be." There we have it; it's |
| contained therein you are, and will always be, | | | | either one or the other - sheep or goats. |
| vulnerable to their deceitful and deceptive ways. | | | | Let's now just take a closer look at those Holy |
| All the articles are here, on EzineArticles. Make no | | | | Scriptures that Bible intellectuals use to support |
| mistake these so called experts will lead you | | | | their right to foolishly reason and pontificate on |
| astray if you give them, not even, half a chance. | | | | The Holy Word of God, something they are not |
| Back to the title question; well did he? Did Paul | | | | Spiritually qualified to do. |
| 'reason' with the Jews in the Synagogues? In fact, | | | | 1) "And three Sabbath days reasoned with them |
| did Paul 'reason' with anyone? What if he did or he | | | | out of the scriptures." What does this tell us? It |
| did not, what does it matter? It matters greatly | | | | tells us the opposite of The Truth. It says Paul |
| for, if he didn't why is the word 'reasoned' in the | | | | reasoned with them for three Sabbath days, |
| Holy Scriptures at all? Let's deal with the question. | | | | which means every Sabbath, for three |
| Did Paul reason with the Jews? | | | | consecutive weeks Paul went to this synagogue |
| Well the KJV of The Holy Bible says he did so | | | | to preach The Word of God out of The Holy |
| that must be it, yes? Actually, no is the plain and | | | | Scriptures. He didn't reason out of the Holy |
| simple answer to that. To help us with this study | | | | Scriptures for it is impossible for a Spirit Born son |
| I will list the relevant Holy Scriptures here: | | | | of God to do so and to 'say thoroughly' is just |
| Acts 17:1-2 Now when they had passed through | | | | another way of saying he spoke with confidence |
| Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to | | | | and authority; he taught, preached to or exhorted |
| Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the | | | | those present. He didn't reason; one only reasons |
| Jews: And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto | | | | with people who are in disagreement. If, as True |
| them, and three Sabbath days reasoned with | | | | Believers, we reason with the argumentative, we |
| them out of the scriptures. | | | | automatically give credence to their view. If a |
| Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue | | | | person was disagreeing with the Apostle Paul, |
| every Sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the | | | | whose servant do you think this trouble maker |
| Greeks. | | | | was? Only one chance for the right answer folks |
| Acts 18:19 And he came to Ephesus, and left | | | | and no prizes for getting it right! |
| them there: but he himself entered into the | | | | 2) "And he reasoned in the synagogue every |
| synagogue, and reasoned with the Jews. | | | | Sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the |
| Acts 24:25 And as he reasoned of righteousness, | | | | Greeks." Here we go again; he 'reasoned' and |
| temperance, and judgment to come, Felix | | | | persuaded the Jews and Greeks. No he didn't, he |
| trembled, and answered, Go thy way for this | | | | said thoroughly what the Holy Scriptures said and |
| time; when I have a convenient season, I will call | | | | then they were persuaded. They were convinced |
| for thee. | | | | by what they heard. How? John 6:44 "No man |
| There we are, four Holy Scriptures that Bible | | | | can come to me, except the Father which hath |
| intellectuals and theologians love, especially Roman | | | | sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the |
| Catholic Bible intellectuals. Why do they love these | | | | last day." This is how it works: The Father God |
| Holy Scriptures, because they think that Paul was | | | | calls a man or a woman to His Son and this is |
| just like them, a Bible intellectual or theologian, | | | | made possible by The Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit |
| when nothing could be further from The Truth | | | | has not yet indwelled this convert yet, but he or |
| and The Truth is The Lord Jesus Christ? | | | | she is receiving special attention from The Father. |
| Ok, let's print Strong's definition of this word: | | | | After this miraculous event, and a called person |
| G1256 | | | | hears The Word of God preached or said |
| ma;ομαι dialegomai | | | | thoroughly by a messenger from God he or she |
| dee-al-eg'-om-ahee. Middle voice from G1223 and | | | | will respond positively, they can do nothing else. |
| G3004; to say thoroughly, that is, discuss (in | | | | This is how these Jews and Greeks were able to |
| argument or exhortation): - dispute, preach (unto), | | | | be 'convinced'. The Father God was calling them |
| reason (with), speak. Now here in Strong's | | | | and Paul was His messenger bringing them the |
| definition we can see some confusion through his | | | | Good News. |
| contradictory remarks: On one hand he says | | | | If we look at Strong's definition for 'persuaded' it's |
| 'dialegomai' means: "To say thoroughly"; "To | | | | not the best word choice for this situation: G3982 |
| preach (unto)"; "To speak"; "To exhort." Then on | | | | πείθω |
| the other hand he says it means: "To discuss"; | | | | peithō pi'-tho A primary verb; to convince |
| "To argue"; "To dispute"; "To reason." Now which | | | | (by argument, true or false); by analogy to pacify |
| is it, for it cannot be both? | | | | or conciliate (by other fair means); reflexively or |
| In 2 Corinthians 12:20 Paul states quite clearly | | | | passively to assent (to evidence or authority), to |
| what he thinks of debating, reasoning and arguing: | | | | rely (by inward certainty): - agree, assure, believe, |
| "For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you | | | | have confidence, be (wax) content, make friend, |
| such as I would, and that I shall be found unto | | | | obey, persuade, trust, yield. |
| you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, | | | | In order to satisfy The Truth of John 6:44 we |
| (reasoning) envyings, wraths, strifes, (arguments) | | | | need something better than 'persuaded' because |
| backbitings, whisperings, swellings, (haughtiness | | | | to be persuaded means a choice has been made |
| through puffed up meaningless intellectual vanity) | | | | and that is not the case at all as being saved is |
| tumults." | | | | not up to us it's not our decision. Let's assess this |
| Is Paul a hypocrite? Is he giving advice and | | | | miracle properly: "To passively assent to"; "to |
| warnings to those he is teaching whilst he himself | | | | trust and rely on with an inward certainty"; "to |
| does the opposite!! Is this an example of the | | | | trust and be in agreement with"; "to have no |
| worldly norm of: "Don't do as I do, just do as I | | | | doubts and total confidence that what we and |
| tell you?" Is that what it's all about - is that what | | | | they are hearing is The Truth." All of the above is |
| Paul was saying here? I don't think so, in fact I | | | | only possible through The Father making it |
| know so and we all know so don't we, if The | | | | possible through The Holy Spirit and The Lord |
| Truth is in us. | | | | Jesus Christ with us for, where else would this |
| Here is the bottom line: "Saying thoroughly"; | | | | inward certainty originate - from ourselves!!?? |
| "preaching unto"; "speaking and exhorting" is a one | | | | When Samuel the Prophet was called The Father |
| way street. These activities do not invite debate | | | | God did not reason with him, He just called his |
| unless you are opposed to the aforementioned | | | | name and Samuel replied: "Here am I." 1Sam 3:4 |
| activities. We need to understand The Word of | | | | That the LORD called Samuel: and he answered, |
| God is not up for debate, nor up for discussion, | | | | Here am I. Have you noticed two things missing |
| nor up for reasoning on for hours and hours. It is | | | | here - reasoning and persuasion, well, would you |
| preached and either received or rejected; there is | | | | believe it? I do hope so, because the words |
| no half way house. Paul went into the synagogues | | | | 'reasoned' and 'persuaded' are the additions of |
| and preached and there stated his case (he said | | | | Bible intellectuals who over time have |
| thoroughly) for The Lord Jesus Christ. Now there | | | | contaminated The Word of God through their |
| would have been some there that received Paul's | | | | personal agendas and thereby reflected them in |
| message joyfully and others that would not have | | | | the pages of The Holy Bible. |
| done so. Those who received it joyfully would | | | | As a final point, you could argue that I am |
| have questioned Paul further initially being curious | | | | reasoning with you to persuade you with this |
| and then hungry for The Word of God and | | | | article, right this minute, but again that would not |
| wanting to know more. No doubt those who did | | | | be true unless The Father were calling you |
| not receive his message would have given him | | | | already to His Son. If that is the case you will |
| much opposition. This opposition would have come | | | | need no reasoning, persuading and I will certainly |
| from the men of religion but he would not have | | | | not have to argue with you. I am only the sower |
| argued and reasoned with them. He would have | | | | and the seed is The Word of God and you are |
| said the same things to them as The Lord Jesus | | | | either fertile soil or stony ground. Furthermore, I |
| Christ said to the Pharisees of his day. Hypocrites; | | | | cannot tell you whether you are fertile soil or not, |
| whited sepulchres; nests of vipers etc. etc. The | | | | only you can answer this question for, you will |
| mindset that is opposed God - the carnal human | | | | either agree with me or disagree with me. |
| mindset cannot be reasoned with, it's impossible | | | | |